Walking In Relation

As Indigenous students step into pedagogical spaces shaped by Western worldviews, the experience can often feel violent. Parts of self, identity and ways of coming to know the world have been misunderstood, taken, or asked to be left at the door. However, as Indigenous students have adapted in order to navigate and survive a system that often does not feel set up for who they are, we are also living at a time where greater effort is being made to understand what the burden of having to adapt has felt (and feels) like, and to understand the incredible losses—both personal and communal—woven within it. The shift toward greater understanding is happening because Indigenous educational leaders are laying down and lighting pathways to make it so.

This series will offer a glimpse into the contemporary challenges and successes of decolonial change within places of learning—from elementary to post-secondary—and the Indigenous leaders ushering in this change.

TO THE LISTENER: Our hope for you is that this series can be invitation into what Indigenous pathways through education have felt like for so many—that it can help you to feel not alone, or highlight something new altogether—and offer of a glimpse of the beautiful ways education is shifting.

Series Created By

This podcast features an incredible community of voices that have come together in their dedication and vision for the building of an education system that sees the whole being of each student, and prioritizes the cultural, physical and emotional safety of Indigenous students struggling to navigate Western pedagogical structures.

This series illustrates the challenges and successes of this work at each level of education, and centres just a few of the Indigenous leaders stewarding this change.

Come join us in this 6-episode journey.

  • Carolyn’s work is about educating others around her of the importance of Indigenous culture and ancestral ways of knowing, to work towards a brighter future for all Indigenous peoples and the seven generations yet to come.


  • Calder’s work centres on non-binary poeisis and circles of kinship in the classroom, exploring pathways of reclamatative wayfinding in queer identity and what it means to co-envision decolonial curriculums rooted in the knowledge of place.

Artwork By:

Skewk Talking

TAWX’SIN YEXWULLA |
AARON NELSON MOODY

Tawx’sin Yexwulla, Aaron—known to friends and family simply as Splash—is a gifted carver, jeweller, teacher and educator, storyteller and writer, canoe-puller, husband, mentor and friend. His gifts as an artist, speaker and teacher have been deepened understandings of Indigenous ways of knowing in the lower mainland, Coast Salish territory and beyond, for many many years.

Featured Guests

  • Sara Florence Davidson

    AUTHOR / ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
    SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY

  • Justin Wilson

    INSTRUCTOR
    CAPILANO UNIVERSITY

  • Margaret Kovach

    PROFESSOR / ASSOCIATE DEAN OF INDIGENEITY (FORMER)
    UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA

  • Aaron Nelson Moody

    ARTIST / CARVER / TEACHER
    LANGARA COLLEGE

  • Michelle Pidgeon

    ASSOCIATE DEAN OF INDIGENEITY,
    SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY

  • Monique Gray Smith

    AUTHOR / EDUCATOR

  • Ramona Elke

    FACULTY ASSOCIATE SFU

  • Leona Prince

    DIRECTOR OF INSTRUCTION,
    INDIGENOUS EDUCATION

  • Chas Desjarlais

    ACTING DIRECTOR OF INSTRUCTION, INDIGENOUS EDUCATION

  • Michelle Andrew

    EDUCATOR

  • Shelly Niemi

    DIRECTOR OF INDIGENOUS EDUCATION

  • Tsandlia Van Ry

    VICE PRINCIPAL

Music By

  • Carolyn Roberts

    HOST / SPEAKER / ASSISTANT PROFESSOR

  • Jodi Proznick

    COMPOSER / PRODUCER / EDUCATOR

  • Ramona Elke

    FACULTY ASSOCIATE / ARTIST

  • Dante Coates

    MUSICIAN / ARTIST

  • Tilden Webb

    MUSICIAN / COMPOSER

  • Sheldon Zaharko

    MUSIC ENGINEER